When you think of an architect, you probably imagine someone designing a beautiful home – bringing together your vision, ensuring everything works in harmony, and planning for the future. Now imagine applying that same concept to your business.
In this episode of Exit Insights, I speak with Kevin Harrington about the role of a business architect and why they can be the secret weapon in maximising your valuation and preparing for a smooth, profitable exit.
Kevin explains that many business owners fall into the trap of short-term fixes – patching up one area without seeing how it fits into the bigger picture. A business architect takes a holistic approach. They start by asking: Where do you want this business to be in five, ten, or twenty years? Then they design the roadmap to get there.
Why You Need a Business Architect
- Shareholder-First Perspective: A business architect looks beyond day-to-day operations, considering your personal wealth, risk profile, and legacy.
- De-Risking & Wealth Extraction: They help separate your assets so all your eggs aren’t in one basket — protecting intellectual property, property ownership, and investments from business risks.
- Expert Sequencing: From CFOs to cyber specialists, they bring in the right people at the right time to avoid costly mistakes and delays.
The Fabric Approach
At Fabric, business architects work alongside wealth planners, risk advisers, and technical specialists to ensure every part of your business and personal financial picture is aligned. The result? A business that’s not only more valuable but also ready for a planned or unplanned exit — giving you control over when and how you sell.
If you’re a business owner with a £5m turnover and seven-figure profits, the right business architect could add millions to your exit value and ensure you can access it when it matters most.
Transcription
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (00:32)
Welcome to the podcast that’s dedicated to helping business owners prepare for an exit. So you can then maximize the valuation and exit on your terms. This is the exit insights podcast and we’re powered by fabric. I’m Darryl Bates-Brownsword and with me today is my good buddy, Kevin Harrington. And we’re going to talk about what is a business architect, why you’d want one and how they’re to add value to your business.
Kevin Harrington (00:31)
Welcome to the podcast that’s dedicated to helping business owners prepare for an exit so you can then maximize the valuation and exit on your terms. This is the Exit Insights podcast and we’re powered by fabric. I’m Darrell Bates-Brownsword and with me today is my good buddy, Kevin Harrington.
and we’re going to talk about what is a business architect, why you’d want one, and how they’re going to add value to your business.
Welcome, Kevin. Thanks for joining me today. Hi, Daryl. It’s a fun subject for us to be addressing today because from experience, most people go, business architect, what’s that then?
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (00:57)
Welcome Kevin, thanks for joining me today.
Yeah. And I guess the clues in the name, isn’t it? A business architect is we’ve all heard of what an architect is for a building and a house. And hopefully it conveys that concept somewhat. what is a business architect and what’s the context for how a business architect might ⁓ be useful in your world?
Kevin Harrington (01:09)
And I guess the clue is in the name, isn’t it? A business architect is, we’ve all heard of what an architect is for a building and a house, and hopefully it conveys that concept somewhat, what is a business architect and what’s the context for how a business architect might ⁓ be useful in your world?
Well, a couple of strands on this one, just very quickly, if you drive down the road and see a god awful looking house, it might be, it was built by a builder that’s not an architect. Usually if you see a beautiful property, it has been designed by a trained architect with loads of experience. But the point I would make here to get people to quickly get up to where our thinking is, let’s imagine, let’s take it out of the context of business for a moment and go your home. If you wanted to make that a cozy,
a place to be and you invited a plumber around, they’re very unlikely to recommend you sort out your windows and get some new double glazing. And this goes on. If you want to make your building secure and you invite a fence around, he’s unlikely to recommend anything apart from the sole thing he does, fencing.
you might be better off with railings, might be better off with a brick wall, there might be all manner of things that might be better for your property. An architect takes a neutral view from the very beginning, and an architect helps you define what you’re after.
presents ideas to you, works with you as those get refined, and then becomes a plan to create the home you want, the building you want, that makes it sustainable, extendable in the future, whatever. And a business architect is the same thing. It’s someone that’s got that all-embracing skill of listening to what you’re trying to seek, and then making a solid recommendation with some options, saying, “Here’s what we think’s right, is that what you’re talking about?”
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And when the response is “Yeah, I think we’re there,” the right trades the right professionals can be brought to bear at the right time to do the job to create the business that you seek and they’re there to help you put extensions on it later etc.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (03:26)
Yeah, they fulfill the vision that the architect has been able to capture from the owners and designers and capture that vision and, and, and document it effectively so that everyone can understand what it is and how it works. So getting that whole context, that big picture context and looking at the whole at once, as you suggest, and, and I see what you mean. You drive past a house and it’s just positioned on the block.
Kevin Harrington (03:26)
Yeah, they fulfill the vision that the architect has been able to capture from the owners and designers and capture that vision and document it effectively so that everyone can understand what it is and how it works. So getting that whole context, that big picture context and looking at the whole at once, as you suggest. And I see what you mean. You drive past a house and it’s just positioned on the block.
The garden compliments the house. The whole thing looks
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (03:53)
The garden complements the house. The whole thing looks
Kevin Harrington (03:56)
as
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (03:57)
as
Kevin Harrington (03:57)
one. Whereas you have a look at some other houses and you can see it’s just poked into a space and it might have all sorts of additions hacked onto the end of it and it’s just a higgledy-piggledy mismatch of bits and pieces and quick fixes without really any…
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (03:57)
one. Whereas you have a look at some other houses and it and you can see it’s just poked into a space and and it might have all sorts of additions hacked onto the end of it. And it’s just a higgledy-piggledy mismatch of bits and pieces and and quick fixes with without really any. Continue without any, I guess, plan for the overall view or perspective as a whole. And that’s
Kevin Harrington (04:16)
Continue without any I guess plan for the overall View or perspective as a whole and and that’s
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (04:22)
That’s what we’re talking about the business now, I guess, as well.
Kevin Harrington (04:22)
that’s what we’re talking about the business now I guess as well. Yeah, and that that mishmash of a house you can live in it It’s a no. It’s annoying you work around the problems you think I’d rather get somewhere else eventually, but you’re too busy
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (04:29)
Yeah!
Kevin Harrington (04:36)
doing other stuff. So business architect can come in at any point really. It can come in right at the beginning of a business but in our experience when we’re working with our clients we’re coming into an established business and saying okay look there’s some big opportunities here to architect a future that is everything you want it to be and perhaps you hadn’t even imagined in some cases and before we commit resources
we make sure that the client is happy the direction it’s going in. And ultimately it’s about the people that occupy that business, or the analogy of occupying the house, occupying that business have a great life and it looks after them for the duration. It satisfies their businesses needs.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (05:24)
Yeah, so it’s a bit of a renovation, I guess. You get the architect in and they can come and renovate and they can see what you’ve got and what you’ve got so far and what you’d like instead. And sometimes it’s, well, we can knock down a few walls, we can put in some bigger windows, we can change these windows and put in those concertina doors and open up the living space in the back garden. What is it you really want from your home? What is it that would give you fulfillment and give you joy and satisfaction living here?
Kevin Harrington (05:24)
Yeah, so it’s a bit of a renovation, I guess. You get the architect in and they can come and renovate and they can see what you’ve got and what you’ve got so far and what you’d like instead. And sometimes as well, we can knock down a few walls, we can put in some bigger windows, we can change these windows and put in those concertina doors and open up the living space in the back garden. What is it you really want from your home? What is it that would give you fulfillment and give you joy and satisfaction living here? And
it’s the
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (05:53)
And it’s
the same thinking, isn’t it?
Kevin Harrington (05:54)
the same thinking isn’t
it? Absolutely. It’s It’s a reality in our business world that so many people present themselves to a business and they are really really good at one or two things. They’re the plumber, they’re the electrician, they’re whatever they are and let’s not forget they’ve all got their purpose but ⁓
if you ask someone holding a hammer to do a job, they’re unlikely to start getting a paintbrush out. And that’s the same issues we see
day in day out that we talk to people that have had the specialist come in doing one thing and that holistic view is what’s required. Where do want to get this thing to? There’s no point in just touching up the paint in one corner. We need to have a vision for getting there step by step, efficiently and effectively to achieve the ambitions of the business, the owners, the family, whatever it might be. Yeah, it reminds me of that old saying, if all you’ve got is a hammer,
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (06:51)
Yeah, it reminds me of that old saying, if all you’ve got is a hammer,
everything looks like a nail. So.
Kevin Harrington (06:55)
everything looks like a nail. Exactly and
an architect just has design tools and knowledge about how things should be put together. Brilliant. So let’s bring it to life for the listeners.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (07:05)
Brilliant. So let’s bring it to life for the listeners.
Kevin Harrington (07:08)
We’re talking about tools and I think we’ve painted a picture and that the comparison of a business architect to a building architect or a home architect. Let’s get into the content a bit more, into the nitty gritty. What are the sort of things we’re talking about that a business architect would look at? Where might they start?
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (07:08)
We’re talking about tools and I think we’ve painted the picture and that the comparison of a business architect to a building architect or a home architect. Let’s get into the content a bit more into the nitty gritty. What are the sort of things we’re talking about that a business architect would look at? Where might they start?
Kevin Harrington (07:25)
The start point is actually carrying out some form of investigation that says, what are you after long term?
Often one of the dangers with businesses is they’re trying to solve the problem to get to the end of the year and it’s short-term problems and actually if all you do is keep fixing the short-term problems the short-term problems keep manifesting themselves in subsequent years. So the absolute start point is looking at what the situation is and in that situation yeah absolutely a stock take and work out and do a situation analysis and
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (07:55)
Yeah, complete stock take.
Kevin Harrington (08:04)
And within that, look at, well actually where do you want to get it to? And also, in what time?
If some people are going, know, this is good for me for 20 years, or I want it to ⁓ continue to be a family-run business, my children will be running it, my daughter’s got ambitions to get involved, whatever it might be. And other people might go, do you know what? I could see myself enjoying this for another five years, but the family aren’t particularly interested in taking over, and I might wanna get out by then. So if I had a business that was exit-ready in five years, that would be good for me. So armed with that…
intelligence about what the ambition is, all the appropriate steps and the activities to get it there can be put in place that makes a business more fun, more valuable, reduces staff turnover because it’s well run, makes customers happy, all those little accidental side benefits happen when you’re trying to achieve the long-term benefit.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (08:57)
Yeah.
So we’re talking about a long-term plan and as with anything in life, you need a plan. Otherwise, you’re never sure if you’re going to get there or reach it. And a timeframe is important. And some of those things, as you say, it could be, I want a family exit, a family succession. ⁓ What about my employees? Do I want some sort of employee ownership? I want to de-risk? One of the big parts of entrepreneurs and what they’ve built is they’ve built so much up in their business and over the years.
Kevin Harrington (09:00)
So we’re talking about a long-term plan and as with anything in life, you need a plan otherwise you’re never sure if you’re gonna get there or reach it and a timeframe is important. And some of those things, as you say, it could be I want a family exit, a family succession. What about my employees? Do I want some sort of employee ownership? I want to de-risk? One of the big parts of entrepreneurs and what they’ve built is they’ve built so much up in their business and over the years
and all of their wealth is in their business.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (09:27)
And all of their wealth is in their business
or a big chunk of their personal wealth is in their business. And part of their plan is how do I get this wealth out of my business? How do I unlock it from my business and put it into a state or an asset class where I can manage it and control it and spread the risk a little more? ⁓ so some business owners are going, how do I de-risk? Can I just take a chunk out of my business and put it over here onto my personal wealth side just so I…
Kevin Harrington (09:30)
or a big chunk of their personal wealth is in their business. And part of their plan is how do I get this wealth out of my business? How do I unlock it from my business and put it into a state or an asset class where I can manage it and control it and spread the risk a little more? so some business owners are going, how do I de-risk? Can I just take a chunk out of my business and put it over here onto my personal wealth side just so I
feel a little more comfortable and I feel like I’ve got some reward out of my business?
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (09:55)
I feel a little more comfortable and I feel like I’ve got some reward out of my business and
Kevin Harrington (09:59)
and that will just re-energize me to go again. they’re some of the options.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (10:00)
that’ll just re-energize me to go again. you know, they’re some of the options.
Kevin Harrington (10:07)
thing you’re talking about there, what sprung to mind immediately was this issue where underneath the umbrella of the limited company, the business owner or the family that owns the business, they’ve got all those valuable assets. They’ve got the trading entity. So they’ve got all the customers. They’ve got a bunch of cash in the bank sometimes. They might own the building they’re working from.
They’re my own intellectual property. And all of those things in sitting in one place, all those eggs in one basket, puts everything at risk if something goes wrong. And a business architect and a…
take the approach of saying, there’s a better place to store that you need another building over there for it. So it’s a, might have an intellectual property company, you might have an investment company that you set up. And do you achieve that by taking that architectural view of it, saying what’s best in in what building?
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (10:54)
Yeah.
Beautiful, beautiful. And we’re talking about de-risk and we’re talking about having a look at this from the shareholders perspective, not just within the company. How do I manage and make it a better company? We’re having an architect will have a look at the whole situation by going the shareholder is at the center of this. What do we need to do for fulfill the shareholders needs and desires? A profitable, successful business that’s exitable is part of it. But what about their personal wealth? How do we look after that?
Kevin Harrington (11:05)
And we’re talking about
We are talking about having a look at this from the shareholder’s perspective. Not just within the company, how do I manage and make it a better company. We are having an architect look at the whole situation by going, the shareholder is at the centre of this. What do we need to do to fulfil the shareholder’s needs and desires? A profitable, successful business that is exitable is part of it. What about their personal wealth? How do we look after that
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (11:32)
on the side and get all of that to
Kevin Harrington (11:32)
on the side and get all of that to
build generational wealth and make sure that you know, they’ve built some wealth, but when they’ve done really well, they want to look after it to make sure for generations ⁓ it prospers and survives for more generations. Yeah, and that inheritance tax and things like that become a ⁓ come into play.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (11:36)
build generational wealth and make sure that they’ve built some wealth. But when they’ve done really well, they want to look after it to make sure that the generations, ⁓ it prospers and survives for multi-generations. And inheritance tax and things like that become ⁓ come into play.
Kevin Harrington (11:55)
Yeah, then there’s a course in that whole area of looking after
family wealth, individual wealth and shareholder wealth. There’s a whole bunch of other things that go on, there? A standard wealth advisor may or may not be regulated.
A lot of them are tied in and they can only supply you whatever they’re allowed to supply, a fixed supply of products. And they might not be the right ones for you. It’s the same thing as we’re talking about a plumber doing an electrician’s job and all that stuff. And what’s needed is the capability of saying, your business isn’t the sole interest. Your family life and your family and your family wealth are other things that matter. And they kind of overlap.
And
not many organizations are able to take a holistic view right across both sides of that. And most specifically, those important bits where they overlap, the seam of those two bits. And we have talked to, I could sit here and name them, I’m not going to. We have talked to in our time working together, Daryl, people that work around wealth management, high net worth.
advisors and stuff like that, where they do ostensibly a really good job, but some of them doing an okay job, but they’re unable to take a particular view of how the business is running. And that’s kind of close to criminal because combining planning for both sides of that unlock amazing amounts of potential.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (13:22)
Yeah.
for sure.
Yeah. When it’s this, this whole planning around the shareholder is not joined up. I remember that conversation we had a while ago and We’re talking to a wealth manager and they, we asked about the process and they said they’ll, they’ll do some wealth mapping and they’ll, they’ll ask the business owner about the value of the business. And the business owner says, “Well, I want to sell the business for 10 million five years time.” And they write that down as if it’s fact. Now,
Kevin Harrington (13:32)
When it’s this whole planning around the shareholders not joined up, I remember that conversation we had a while ago.
and we’re talking to a wealth manager and we asked about the process and they said they’ll do some wealth mapping and they’ll ask the business owner about the value of the business and the business owner says, well, I wanna sell the business for 10 million five years time and they write that down as if it’s fact. Now,
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (13:56)
That was a terrifying conversation because there was no validation of the actual valuation of the business. What’s the business worth today? What’s the realistic valuation of it in five years time? Is it ten or is it two? And are
Kevin Harrington (13:56)
that was a terrifying conversation because there was no validation of the actual valuation of the business. What’s the business worth today? What’s the realistic valuation of it in five years time? Is it 10 or is it two?
and
are there so many risks of what are the things that influence that? And an architect will, a business architect will look at all these things on behalf of the shareholder and have a look at all of the assets and the intangible assets and the tangible assets in the business and outside of the business for the shareholder and help them derive a plan to get them what they’re looking for. And some of that is bringing in additional functional expertise into the business such as, we need to get control of the financials. Let’s get a CFO in. ⁓
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (14:09)
there so many risks of what are the things that influence that? And an architect will, a business architect will look at all these things on behalf of the shareholder and have a look at all of the assets and the intangible assets and the tangible assets in the business and outside of the business for the shareholder.
and help them derive a plan to get them what they’re looking for. And some of that is bringing in additional functional expertise into the business, such as, we need to get control of the financials. Let’s get a CFO in. You’ve got internal
Kevin Harrington (14:38)
internal marketing and you’ve got some marketing teams. Have you got a C level marketing perspective that’s pulling together an overall marketing and business strategy? What about what’s important now is cyber.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (14:39)
marketing and you’ve got some marketing team, but have you got a ⁓ C level marketing perspective that’s pulling together an overall marketing and business strategy? What about, what’s important now is cyber. ⁓
Kevin Harrington (14:54)
How are you protecting against cyber? What about the assets there and how are you addressing that and your IT systems and platforms and everything’s platform driven now. How are you leveraging that in your business? Do you need to develop your
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (14:54)
How are you protecting against cyber? What about your assets there? ⁓ how are you addressing that and your IT systems and platforms and everything’s platform driven now? How are you leveraging that in your business? Do you need to develop your own
Kevin Harrington (15:08)
own toolkit or are off-the-shelf tools okay? All of these things, expertise is so niche now, architects know the right team of people and have a full network of how to access all of these separate
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (15:08)
toolkit or are off the shelf tools okay? All of these things, expertise is so niche now. Architects know the right team of people and have a full network of how to access all of these separate
individual functional expertise and how to introduce them when required. And just
Kevin Harrington (15:24)
individual functional expertise and how to introduce them when required.
just like your building, when to get the foundations, when to do the plumbing, when to do the electrical, when to do the first fix, when to do the second fix. You don’t want to put your plasterboard on and then realise you need to do a bit more plumbing. So that’s how an architect will help you. What’s the order of things and how much you need to do.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (15:30)
like your building, when to get the foundations, when to do the plumbing, when to do the electrical, when to do the first fix, when to do the second fix. You know, don’t want to put your plasterboard on and then realize you need to do a bit more plumbing. So ⁓ that’s how an architect will help you. What’s the order of things and how much you need to do.
Kevin Harrington (15:48)
Yeah, I remember that conversation with the wealth advisor and the… We won’t mention where they are from. No, no, no,
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (15:56)
We won’t mention where they are from.
Kevin Harrington (15:59)
Too many people will listen to this and it will become a challenge. But the thing that strikes me is that…
Many people go, I’ve done the right thing now, because I’m with whatever company and they’re investing my money for them in their products. And they’ll probably get a good return and so on. But is that taking into account genuinely how things like inheritance tax are going to change next year? Quite dramatically. Yeah, absolutely scary. I’m going to reiterate the point you made, which makes me shudder, is when an entire plan on a family’s future post-sale
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (16:29)
Gary.
Kevin Harrington (16:39)
in the business is based on a chunk of money being invested by an investment advisor of some sort and a substantial chunk of what’s going to be the money available is something where a figure was plucked from the air and there’s been no test to it is very scary. Even if you get the figure right, how quickly can you realize that amount of money?
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (17:00)
yeah.
Yeah,
how secure is it?
Kevin Harrington (17:06)
That’s a whole different
game and that’s why working with a business architect that can bring in all the different things, sometimes for half a day’s advice, sometimes for a longer project-based piece of work or whatever, that makes things safe and helps you achieve what you’re after.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (17:29)
So business architects, where do you find them? It’s not a term we’ve heard of a heck of a lot, but I think we’ve shared the concept of what the business architect does and how it could add incredible value to your business. If you’re a five mil business and got a ⁓ million pounds in EBITDA, it can add incredible value to your business to ensure that you get the most in your leverage evaluation and that valuation is accessible when you want to access it.
Kevin Harrington (17:29)
So business architects, where do you find them? It’s not a term we’ve heard of a heck of a lot, but… ⁓
I think we’ve shared the concept of what the business architect does and how it could add incredible value to your business. If you’re a five mill business and got a million pounds in EBITDA, it can add incredible value to your business to ensure that you get the most in your leverage evaluation and that valuation is accessible when you want to access it,
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (18:00)
whether it’s a planned exit or an unplanned exit.
Kevin Harrington (18:00)
whether it’s a planned exit or an unplanned exit.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (18:03)
But where do you find someone that can help you with this? Act as a Sherpa to guide you through this journey and ⁓ really professionalize your business and get the most from your valuation and the most from your life’s work.
Kevin Harrington (18:03)
Where do you find someone that can help you with this act as a shirker to guide you through this journey and really professionalise your business and get the most from the evaluation and the most from your last work?
Well, I guess it comes as no surprise to most people listening to this that you could have a chat with us. Of course. Yeah. So, you know, what we’re doing at Fabric is absolutely all these things with a degree of… ⁓
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (18:21)
Of course.
Kevin Harrington (18:32)
scale that would quite surprise people because Fabric is a very quiet company, doesn’t go around shouting about what we’re doing, but it combines everything from family planning office type support, stock broking, licensed stock brokers, FCA regulated and all that sort of stuff, right through to the business architects that can work on specifically on the business and being able to see across the fence between the business to the
family life and the family life to the business life, ensuring that it works correctly. And we’ve got a…
a group of business partners we work with as well that are dealing with some of the big issues that are available on call. So when we’ve decided what’s needed, we can work with our clients and say, look, this person here will be able to get you to an answer on that through the following steps. Shall we organise that now? Does that feel right? And we can work at this with the pace that the client needs. It’s just amazing that
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (19:30)
Yeah.
It’s just amazing
the pool power that we’ve experienced since being involved in Fabric, isn’t it? Like the relationships with Organo, I’m happy to say that the relationships with people like the CFO Center, you know, the power and the clout behind those guys who are saying, hey, you want to work with a business that’s power and become powered by Fabric because it makes a difference. We got, the, well, I don’t want to say insurance brokers, but partners and who are ⁓ really becoming asset
Kevin Harrington (19:38)
pool power that we’ve experienced since being involved in fabric, isn’t it? Like the relationships with organ… I’m happy to say that the relationships with people like the CFO Center, you know that…
the power and the clout behind those guys who saying, hey, you want to work with a business that’s powered and become powered by fabric because it makes a difference. We’ve got, you know, the, well, I don’t want to say insurance brokers, but partners and who are really becoming asset
and risk advisors. So those guys are saying to their clients, you need to be aware of your, your whole business plan. You need to consider how a business architect could help you get the most
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (20:05)
and risk advisors. So those guys are saying to their clients, you need to be aware of your whole business plan. You need to consider how a business architect could help you get the most
Kevin Harrington (20:18)
from your business and your business goals and aspirations. We’ve got other organisations as well that we’re working with, Freeman Clark and looking at the tech side of things. So it’s really exciting to see that powered by fabric is really becoming a force in the UK marketplace
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (20:18)
from your business and your business goals and aspirations. We’ve got other organizations as well that we’re working with, Freeman Clark and ⁓ looking at the tech side of things. So powered, it’s really exciting to see that powered by fabric is really becoming a force in the UK market.
place and ⁓ that the results are coming through. And We’ve got something like 25 architects working with us now. We’re all being trained up in the Fabric Methodology designed by Dean Breyley and ⁓ Powered by Fabric
Kevin Harrington (20:35)
and the results are coming through. And we’ve got something like 25 architects working with us now. We’re all being trained up in the fabric methodology designed by Dean Braley and powered by fabric.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (20:49)
is a thing that’s starting to take grip. And all of these business architects are people like yourself and business people who have been through the exit journey themselves, been very successful in building their own business and exited.
Kevin Harrington (20:49)
is a thing that’s starting to take grip and all of these business architects are people like yourself and business people who have been through the exit journey themselves, been very successful in building their own business and exited and not ready to hang things up yet and they want to keep going and they’re going, and I add most value to the business community now and they’re joining Fabric and becoming a business architect. So the energy is amazing, it’s really exciting.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (21:04)
not ready to hang things up yet. And they want to keep going and they’re going, how can I add most value to the business community now? And they’re joining Fabric and becoming a business architect. So the energy is amazing. It’s really exciting.
Kevin Harrington (21:18)
⁓ As Kevin says, if you want an introduction, look us up on LinkedIn. That’s probably the best way to find us because ⁓ in some respects it is a low profile and ⁓ it’s not for everyone.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (21:18)
⁓ As Kevin says, if you want an introduction, ⁓ look us up on LinkedIn. That’s probably the best way to find us because ⁓ in some respects it is a low profile and ⁓ it’s not for everyone.
Kevin Harrington (21:32)
But if you’re at the right business, and we mentioned before, if you’re the right size business and you’ve got ⁓ the right part of your journey, this will be amazing for you.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (21:32)
But if you’re the right business and we mentioned before, if you’re the right size business and you’ve got the right part of your journey, this will be amazing for you.
Kevin Harrington (21:44)
That’s a well phrased little piece, we must capture that, it’s good. Absolutely, everything starts with a conversation. We only want to help people increase value as they determine value.
which is having the life they want financially and personally. And if we don’t create value for people, we don’t expect to extract value ourselves. So it all starts with a cup of coffee or a phone call or a team’s call or whatever, and we rather enjoy those. So if people want to understand how a business architect would work in their world, give us a shout.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (22:23)
Yeah, it’s amazing how many people have reached out after listening to one of these episodes and said, I’ll buy you a cup of coffee. I’d love to tap into your your insights. So ⁓ please feel comfortable doing that. Kevin, as usual, fascinating to talk with you. And until next time, let’s share some exit insights.
Kevin Harrington (22:24)
amazing how many people have reached out after listening to one of these episodes and said I’ll buy you a cup of coffee I’d love to tap into your your insights so ⁓ please feel comfortable doing that. Kevin as usual fascinating to talk with you and until next time let’s share some exit insights.
Thanks Darryl. Cheers.
Darryl Bates-Brownsword (22:46)
Cheers.